This week we talk to Gene Cook Jr. who once hosted “The Narrow Mind” podcast and now has a new podcast called “BJJ Moses.” We talk presuppositional apologetics can Brazillian Jiu Jitsu & how the spiritual connection between martial arts and Christianity.

Listen as we chat with one of the most noted christian apologists of this decade, find out why he stopped podcasting and what he is up to now.

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