The Frightening Thing About Leighton Flowers

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Sure we have a large amount of God hating skeptics on our youtube channel who comment but we also have many insightful spiritually mature Christian folk who frequently share their thoughts and comments.

Recently Len Pettis joined me for a Google hangout to discuss Leighton Flowers false teaching concerning the Sovereignty of God. Flowers errors are many and this one is extremely troubling as he claims God is not eternally sovereign.

You can watch that engagement below but before you do please take the time to read the following listener feedback from Eric Smith. Eric left this comment after watching the video below.

The frightening thing about Leighton Flowers is the fact that he knows what he is doing. He knows what the Bible says about these doctrines but refuses to believe those verses because he actually does have his own idea of God.

Yet when you deviate from the scriptures to make any point about God, you become a bad theologian and you eventually take away an attribute of God, which now makes God no longer God. That is exactly what Leighton did when he said God’s sovereignty isn’t eternal.

He knows what Isaiah 46:9-11, Psalm 115:3, 135:6-7, Proverbs 16:9, 21:1, Daniel 4:34-35, 5:21, Acts 2:23, Ephesians 1:4-5, Romans 9, and many other verses say. Yet he refuses to believe the context, content, and grammar of these verses, therefore he must (by necessity to cling to his version of “free” will) make these (and other) verses say something different than it says. In doing so, he then takes away an attribute of God, making something or someone more powerful than God.

By his reasoning, grace and mercy aren’t eternal as well since God wasn’t showing grace and mercy upon Himself before He created anything. Do you see where this thinking leads? And also notice that to argue his theological point Leighton Flowers must revert to philosophical argumentation?

He has endorsed or even alluded to open theism and Molinism while using bad analogies with faulty premises. He continually starts with a faulty premise then argues from that perspective.

When I taught apologetics last year at the church I attend, there were two classes on logical fallacies: Many times, just like atheists, Leighton Flowers will start with a faulty, unbiblical premise, then he will argue philosophically from that premise, thinking he is being logical. And he would be if the premise was sound, but he starts with the premise, and not with scripture.

He leans on his own understanding and is spoiled by vain deceit and philosophies after men (after the principles of the world) and he doesn’t trust the Lord. This violates Proverbs 3:5 and Colossians 2:8.

I am seriously afraid for Dr. Leighton Flowers, because his obsession for stamping out Calvinism has led to the most unbiblical views I’ve ever heard.

Unfortunately, many that follow him either are as obsessed as he is or they haven’t fully read and studied what the full counsel of God says about this subject.

This isn’t meant to be an insult, just a fact, because as you read and study the scriptures daily (Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 2:15), you find that the doctrines of grace and God’s attributes (particularly God’s sovereignty) are all over the Bible. – Listener Feedback – Eric Smith

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  1. ONP 2 months ago

    This Flowers followers prefer to decrease God’s attributes to exalt human “own freedom” just to blindly follow a person who blatantly hates calvinism just because. He has an agenda against calvinism that is absurd. It is a waste of time and effort but his contempt is so strong. To all those people, please learn how to live with calvinism as you do with everything else that you consider wrong. Good grief!

  2. Kenneth 2 months ago

    Well I wonder if any of ya’ll would be willing to have a one on one live discussion with him. I’ve listened to many of his things to see what he is submitting and I have to say, you have misrepresented him.

  3. P 6 months ago

    To all who rage against the article, Flowers does pride himself as being a former Calvvinist. He credits himself with the salvation he professes. His god does all for the praise of man’s will.

    The SBC as a whole is apostate and he just manifests what most in the denomination believe and it’s not the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    John 1: 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    • Andanna 5 months ago

      Indeed *MATTHEW 7:19-27* LF & his team will face GOD in HIS wrath!

      • Mark Rogers 2 months ago

        I too am a Calvinist. But I do not believe that we are saved by our theology. There are many things we don’t understand but one thing I do understand is that we are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross. I pray that Leighton Flowers comes to the truth about that which he thinks he best understands,ie- Soteriology. But he, like me, doesn’t have it all right.

    • Chase Goettler 4 weeks ago

      I really don’t understand how people can not see the free will of man throughout scripture. Abraham had a choice. Moses had a choice. Even Saul had a choice. Grace is given to us by GOD not of man so long as we believe in Him. Believing is not a work of man. If so then how would you reconcile Romans 4? Abraham’s was righteous because he believed not because of works.

  4. Roger Vincent 1 year ago

    Dr. Flowers plays a dangerous game and his student will suffer for it. Flowers stands for nothing except that he hates Calvinism, and will do what he has to do to disprove Calvinism, even if that means sneaking in open theism, Molinism etc… but claiming he is neither. Because Dr. Flowers won’t stand for anything. His teachings are all over the place, therefore it makes it difficult to pin him down. His teachings are geared towards Calvinism, which is why he ONLY engages Calvinists; therefore he will find himself tied up in all sorts of theological knots when engaging other camps i.e. Mormons, pro gay Christians etc… He knows this which is why doesn’t engage other camps.

    • Andanna 5 months ago

      are there really converted Christians?

      and still believe in their own THAN RELYING ON WHAT GOD Said?! 😢

  5. Colin Nunn 1 year ago

    God will judge you people. May He have mercy on you deceivers.

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  7. Elisa 1 year ago

    Disgraceful attack on a humble man of God. BTWN has gone on a witch hunt.

  8. Linda 1 year ago

    This attack on Dr. Flowers is nothing more than a desperate and pathetic attempt to sew discord and bear false witness against a brother in Christ who is drawing attention to the glaring contradictions and false teachings of your particular doctrine. It’s no surprise that he’s being attacked..the clarity that God has gifted him to bring is dismantling this false doctrine, so the followers must react in defense. Dr. Flowers has never, not once, denied any of these scriptures and his view of God’s sovereignty is entirely biblical. Have any of you even read his book?

    Raking Dr. Flowers over the coals, being extremely rude, pharisaical, condescendingly arrogant and spreading lies about him (all the while claiming to be Christians), simply because he has taken a different theological stance on the issue of soteriology is FAR from how we are called to treat one another. This treatment of him by the reformed crowd has been completely inappropriate and disgraceful. “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” John 13:35. Dr. Flowers is always extremely kind and able to disagree with others gracefully…unlike his opponents. So..that is very telling in and of itself.

    You are taking his words out of context and attempting to smear him. I hope your followers and others can see through your desperation…for should Dr. Flowers continue to gain credibility, that is a threat to the system of doctrine you’ve built your whole tiny kingdom around. After all, there are SO many wolves out there that are deceiving people and leading them away from the truth. He’s not one of them. Why go after him..unless his ministry is a threat to yours.

    • Z SULC 9 months ago

      Well said – the Calvinistic distortion of the true nature and character of God is nothing short of blasphemous. The monster their doctrine of demons has produced is not the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ .

    • Nathaniel 6 months ago

      @Linda Awesome post! My thoughts exactly. This entire blog post is just one big ad-hominem attack against Dr. Flowers. Notice how he doesn’t address any of Leighton’s arguments? He just claims that his arguments are wrong because he doesn’t start with a Calvinistic interpretation. It’s just a smear campaign that is demonstrably false and untruthful.

  9. Stephen Anderson 1 year ago

    Wow, wrath is not an eternal attribute? God changes?
    You guys ought not be winging this stuff.

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